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Being that I am the professor, let me be perfectly clear: my argument that censorship has a place if we were right is only if we in fact were right. 100%! If we were wrong, we'd be sheltering out good ideas and that wouldn't be good at all; that would be bad. Censorship is only good if the censors are protecting the actual truth. So at the core, all that matters is if the censoring group is correct about its beliefs or not: if they are, censorship actually is good for those who will be confused; if they are not, they are doing a great disservice to everyone they are sheltering.

That being said, you are in luck, because we don't need to debate scientology, Saudi Wahhabis, the Chinese party or the Chinese Wahhabis for that matter. Just Judaism. I guess specifically Chareidi Judaism, but I’ll be fine if we make headway towards Judaism in general.

I don’t find that these conversations get too far; we both have convinced ourselves of what we believe, but I do enjoy a good honest discussion, and whoever becomes moved slightly by the other will be a cubit closer to the truth!

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About this post, all you've shown is that are many people who think they have the truth, and at least 99....9% of them are dead wrong, if not all. And yes, when discussing why they as opposed to any other are right, any one of them can claim that they are that 0.00...1% who actually is right. So you are correct that "claiming you have the truth" means absolutely nothing. But if one of them didn't just have the truth but could articulate to you, in a reasonable manner, how they know, you wouldn't have a particular problem with that, would you?

In short, you agree that one could be correct if that's where the reasonability led, correct? I already stated that I am willing to be convinced (though you were doubtful of my honesty deep down, but at least I am willing to try). I am confirming that you are willing to do the same.

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